Each track of the Char 2c was powered by its own 200 or 250 hp engine to a top speed of 15 kmh. In 1940 twelve FCM F1 tanks were ordered, another very large twin-turret tank. On 30 September he personally took control of the project. The first engines were of the Chenu type, of 210 hp each. Post by trekfanj » Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:25 pm HamilkarBarkas wrote: Verlinden produces several sets of tankers, but most of the time they are in "surrender" pose. The tank could accelerate up to 17 kph. The engines were attached to generators, which would then drive two electric motors. It fired a HE shell with four kilogrammes of explosives and a muzzle velocity of 240 m/s. On 29 January he wrote a letter to Minister Thomas, making clear that under no circumstances could the project be allowed to impede production of the Schneider CA. Each track was powered by its own 200 or 250 hp engine, via an electrical transmission. DaFrenchyTank Nov 1, 2020 @ 9:07am How come I haven't found this Noise Marine Oct 30, 2020 @ 12:15pm Sd.Kfz. Despite the end of hostilities, however, strong political pressure to adopt new heavy tank projects remained, as there was now a considerable surplus capacity in the heavy industry. See more ideas about french tanks, tank, military vehicles. Renault, always expecting his employees to provide new ideas instantly, had by this attitude encouraged the team to take a proactive stance – setting a pattern that would last until 1940 – and to have various kinds of contingency studies ready for the occasion, including a feasibility study for a heavy tank. FCM then largely neglected the project, apart from reaping the financial benefits. The Char 2C is the only super-heavy tank ever to attain operational status – a super-heavy tank is not simply a tank that is very heavy but one that has been deliberately made much heavier than regular tanks of its period. Specifically, the mismatch in crew values caused by commander's 10% crew skill bonus. The transmission was mechanical, using a disc clutch. However, Clemenceau would leave the decision to Estienne.[2]. Exact specifications, if they ever existed, have been lost. The Char 2C could cross a trench 425 centimetres wide, enough to pass the typical canal sluices in northern France. To stop this, the Direction de l’Artillerie d’Assaut on instigation of Estienne decided in April 1919 to procure ten Char 2Cs after all, and use this as an argument to reject any other projects. External communications were the responsibility of the mechanic who could open a little hatch just behind the turret to give signals by flags, flares or electrical lights. There would surely be no harm in allowing some prototypes to be built. Though the Char 2C never served in combat, that’s probably for the better. The turret was a truncated cone with a roof sloping down to the front, so that in side view its profile was wedge-shaped. Thomas answered on 5 February that there was no danger of this; anyway he had just happened to affirm on 1 February the policy of General Mourret, who had already ordered the simultaneous development of three prototypes: the lightened "A" version, weighing thirty tons, having a length of 6.92 metres, with a suspension featuring twenty-nine double road wheels, four main bogies and five top rollers, powered by two Renault 200 hp engines and to be equipped with a 75 mm gun, to fulfil the original order of 20 October; the "B" version of forty-five tons with a hull lengthened to 7.39 metres, armed with a 75 mm gun and two machine guns, with a suspension featuring thirty road wheels, five main bogies and six top rollers, using a new 380 hp engine and a petro-hydraulic transmission and the "C" version of 62 tons with a 75 mm gun, a length of 9.31 meters, a suspension featuring forty-five road wheels, six main bogies and nine top rollers, and four engines of 110 hp combined with a petro-electrical transmission. However, the FCM tank had already made a powerful and influential enemy. Visit to search funny and cool military pictures, videos, memes and more - Keep Calm and Chive on! Guy François, 2011, "Le char lourd FCM 1A, ou le rêve immolé". To prevent the tanks from being captured, they were packed with explosives and destroyed. The gasoline was lit and the tanks exploded around 19:00. The minimum speed was 2 km/h (1.24 mph). Nevertheless, during the French mobilisation of 1939, all ten were activated and put into their own unit, the 51st Bataillon de Chars de Combat. May 22, 2015 - Post with 3354 views. In the design four engines had been planned but this was reduced to two, each track being powered by its own engine via an electrical transmission. French command was aware that this reputation was undeserved. [8], The fighting compartments were connected by the engine room. In the summer of 1916, probably in July, General Léon Augustin Jean Marie Mourret, the Subsecretary of Artillery, verbally granted Forges et Chantiers de la Méditerranée (FCM), a shipyard in the south of France near Toulon, the contract for the development of a heavy tank, a char d'assaut de grand modèle. In 1930 and 1931, the vehicles were rebuilt with a frontal armour of forty-five millimetres. Originally a crew of seven had been planned, but in December 1917 this had been reduced to six: a commander in the left of the turret who also had the responsibility of aiming the gun; a second man in the right of the turret who combined the functions of gunner, machine-gunner and loader; a standing assistant-loader handing new rounds to the loader – at first two of these had been seen as necessary; a driver; a front machine-gunner; and a mechanic who doubled as a rear machine-gunner. The Char 2C had two 250 hp Mercedes engines driving electric generators to run a motor for each track and give the tank a top speed of 8 mph. The armor combined with the general large size gave the Char a staggering weight of 69 tons, which outclassed all other European tanks. The sides and rear were protected by 21 mm (0.83 in) plate, the top and roof by 15 mm (0.6 in). The howitzer had a muzzle velocity of 200 m/s. Feb 3, 2016 - Military Pictures - Search our military gifs collection to salute our troops! Like the superheavy tank it had no real spring system for the twelve small wheels per side. Mourret had been replaced as head of the commission by Estienne; British and American observers were present. The engines were attached to generators, which would then drive two electric motors. [2], Mourret's stated motive in having the tank designed by a shipyard ensured much attention was given to ergonomics. For propaganda, each tank had been named after one of the ancient regions of France, numbers 90-99 being named Poitou; Provence; Picardie; Alsace; Bretagne; Touraine; Anjou; Normandie; Berry; Champagne respectively. It seems that the original contract was mainly awarded due to nepotism. Its suspension contains 39 interleaving road wheels on each side, making for a total of 90 wheels on the tank. New engines of the Soutter-Harlé type were fitted and the three independent machine gun positions deleted. It was developed by a French shipyard, Forges et Chantiers de la Méditerranée (FCM) located near Toulon. The tank could overcome a 1 m (3.3 ft) high vertical obstacle and cross a trench 3.5 m (11.5 ft) wide. They would be the last French tanks to be produced for the home market till the Char D1 pre-series of 1931. He was not averse to the production of heavy tanks as such but only in a limited number and on the condition it did not impede the manufacture of light tanks. This monster had a crew of 12, weighed some 152,100 pounds, and was powered by two Maybach or Daimler Benz 250-hp gasoline engines. They were used instead for numerous morale-boosting movies, in which they were often shown climbing and crushing old French forts. The Char 2C was intended as a breakthrough tank or “Fortress Tank” (Char de forteresse), intended to lead the great Allied offensives that were planned for the spring of 1919. Moritz demonstrated that the vehicle was effortlessly capable of crossing 3.5 metres wide trenches, climb ninety centimetres high walls and descend into, and climb out of again, six metres wide and four metres deep craters. [6] At FCM Jammy and Savatier finished the Char 2C prototype, the other nine tanks being built almost simultaneously; all ten were delivered in 1921 and modified by the factory until 1923. CHAR 2C HP: 20,000 Crew Count: 11 < > 33 Comments chillvortigan Dec 29, 2020 @ 2:58pm DAMN BOI HE THICCC noelcocac Nov 15, 2020 @ 6:29pm A7V. In their day they were the most powerful tanks in the world, with a crew of twelve, a 75mm gun in the front turret and four machine gun (one in an auxiliary turret at the rear of the tank). [2] The design was presented to the Consultative Committee of the Assault Artillery on 16 and 17 January 1917, after the basic concept had been approved on 30 December. FM2C n° 92 and 95 have been … [2], The main armament was a 105 mm gun, a Canon de 105 Court Schneider, shortened to reduce its recoil to fit into a turret. Estienne told Pétain that this was ill-advised while the public was questioning why these heavy tanks had not been produced. On 7 October he had requested Lloyd George to deliver some Mark I's to France but had received no answer. He specified a weight of forty tonnes, an immunity against light artillery rounds and a trench-crossing capacity of 3.5 metres.[4]. Seven fuel tanks, containing 1,260 litres, gave it a range of 150 kilometres. France was defeated before they entered service. In that meeting Estienne was critical of heavy tanks: "the infantry has as much need of large tanks, as it needs 400 mm cannon; it has need of small tanks, as much as it needs 37 mm and machine-guns". The other 6 tanks have been transported by rail south of Neufchateau. The Char 2C also had what is likely the largest tanker crew ever: twelve. Originally they were of a domestic French design, but were later replaced with higher output German engines that were captured and rigged to power the tank. The fighting compartments were connected by the engine room. In many ways it was remarkable. Brigadier Jean Baptiste Eugène Estienne, commander of the new tank force, the Assault Artillery, closely cooperated with Renault in the development of the Renault FT, and through this connection was kept well informed of the other tank project. It is unlocked upon obtaining ten kills with the Char 2C. Outside of a crew of 1 commander only, 100% crew is a fiction. It was more or less compartmentalised into four sections, that however were not separated by bulkheads: a relatively short driver compartment at the front, a fighting compartment with a turret at its top, a larger munitions room and finally a large engine compartment at the rear. On 10 April 1917 he still assumed that the first trials could have begun within five weeks. French super heavy tank Char 2C number 99 Champagne, Meuse 1940 (ex 51e Bataillon de Chars Lourds) Twelve people were required to man the tank. It was visited by the Subsecretary of State of Inventions Jules-Louis Breton on 13 January 1917, who was much impressed and developed a keen interest in the project. It is still easily the largest tank ever taken into production. A vertical obstacle could be climbed of 170 centimetres and a slope of 70%. Description. The wading capacity was 140 centimetres. The centre of gravity was in the middle of the vehicle, at a level of one metre above the ground. During the French campaign, 6 of the 2C tanks were sent to the front. Badass French Tank Crew in front of the biggest operational tank ever, Char 2C (interwar period). puts Char 2C Bis at 1.3/1.7. The rear turret was made of 22 millimetre plates. The Char 2C was becoming outclassed with the steady rise of new tanks entering the fray. The Char 2C, French heavy tank 1930s [1600x864] This fortunate circumstance allowed a full-size wooden mock-up to be constructed in a remarkably[2] quick time. It is the French Char 2c, a 69 tons behemoth that was in use between 1921 and 1940. In December 1917 the first prototype, the FCM 1A, was ready to be shown to an investigating commission. Then Pétain demanded unreasonably high production numbers, thus delaying planning and initiating a political row. two 8 mm machine guns (ball mount at front and one mounted in a rear turret) Engine : two Sautter-Harlé engines 6-cyl 2 x 250 hp: Operational range. It was very elongated with a length of 6.5 metres and width of 2.05 metres. Frontal hull armor was 30 millimeters thick, tapering to 22-millimeter side armor. The committee decided to have two prototypes developed, one with an electrical transmission, the other with a hydraulic transmission. Both turrets had stroboscopic cupolas. "The Char 2C Bis on the other hand was the Char 2C with a 155mm howitzer gun thus being essentially a sluggish Ho-Ro or Sturmpanzer II with better armor and a fully-rotating turret." The crew was composed of 12-13 men. A super-heavy tank is much heavier than the regular tanks used during the same time period. A rather large riveted turret with a stroboscopic cupola, adopted from the Char 2C, brought its height to 2.52 metres. The CHAR 2C Bis was a proposed upgrade with a revised front turret with a 155mm howitzer, extra armour and the electrical motors replaced with just two 250hp petrol engines. On 16 April the Nivelle Offensive failed completely, and the first use of French tanks was likewise a failure; in reaction Thomas ordered all tank production and projects to be ended. Separate clutches … The Char 2C had a loaded weight of 69 tonnes, partly because of its armour - 45 mm at the front, 22 mm at the sides - but much of it just because of its huge size. The front turret, made of 35 mm plates, was placed so high that its crew had to climb into it by means of a ladder, sitting on seats suspended from the turret roof and operating on an elevated level compared to the hull machine gunners below. The crew was composed of 12-13 men. Seven fuel tanks, four to the left and three to the right, containing 1,260 litres, gave it a range of 150 kilometres. Since 1976 Char Crews has offered fine china, flatware, giftware, holiday china and ornaments, stemware, artisan-quality collectibles, and home decor items from leading American and European designers and manufacturers. Due to the curve, it was impossible to unload the tanks. [7] Ground clearance was sixty centimetres. It featured a 105 mm gun in a turret, had a proposed weight of 38 tons and 35 mm armour. The Char 2C also had what is likely the largest tanker crew ever: twelve. The three independent 8 mm machine gun positions, one at each side and one to the right of the driver at the front, all in ballmounts, gave protection against infantry assault. It resembled a scaled-down Char 2C, the giant tank produced by the same company. Following the first use of the tank in September that year, the project was properly initiated, aided by Renault, who were designing their own Renault FT-17. It did not become operational during the war, but 10 were built, the last being delivered in 1922. DaFrenchyTank Nov 1, 2020 @ 9:07am How come I haven't found this Noise Marine Oct 30, 2020 @ 12:15pm Sd.Kfz. [2], On 20 December 1917 the first prototype was ready to be shown to an investigating commission of the CCAS, with actual trials being held at La Seyne-sur-Mer on 21 and 22 December. The Char 2C, also known as the FCM 2C, is a French heavy tank, later also seen as a super-heavy tank,[1] developed during World War I but not deployed until after the war. It was very elongated with a length of 6.5 metres and width of 205 centimetres. The origins of the Char 2C have always been shrouded in a certain mystery. When the war ended, not a single tank had been built. The Char 2C was a super-heavy French tank—and possibly the largest tank ever built. At that time all tank projects were highly secret, and thereby shielded from public scrutiny. The Char 2C had a loaded weight of 69 tonnes, partly because of its armour, which was among the thickest of World War I-era tanks, but mostly because of its huge size. [2] Nivelle's misgivings were reinforced by inquiries from a parliamentary financial commission led by Pierre Renaudel. Studies on the design of a light tank were initiated in July 1916 by Louis Renault, a major automobile and truck manufacturer. The Char 2C was 10.27 m long and weighed about 69 tons. Moritz then predicted that the first prototype would be ready by 1 May 1917. It resembled a scaled-down Char 2C, the giant tank produced by the same company. Because the Char 2C was mainly a propaganda tool, it never saw combat. Neglected is the first true mammoth AFV of the war, the French Char 2C. The Char 2C was the first mass production tank that used an electrical transmission. 10 Char 2C tanks were built in 1922. This land battleship was armed with a 75 mm gun, model Canon de 75 modèle 1897. The largest tank that ever went into operational status. The sprocket was at the rear, the idler at the front. The assistant-mechanic was seated to the front right of the rear fighting compartment, on top of an escape hatch, and the radio operator was seated at the front left.[9]. The armour was among the thickest of World War I-era tanks, though by modern standards this would be considered thin. Joffre answered that Estienne was no doubt correct in his tactical and organisational analysis, but that he could not oblige him because political backing of the heavy tank was simply too strong. Three were placed in gimbal mounts at the front and sides and one in a rear turret. To the public, they obtained the reputation of invincible super tanks, the imagined dimensions of which far surpassed the actual particulars. As no orders had been received regarding their destination, they remained at this spot during the 14th, being bombed in the early afternoon but without incurring any damage. This was not completely successful; as late as 1920 it was proposed to the Section Technique des Appareils de Combat to build a 600-tonne tank with 250 mm armour. The Char 2C is a powerful five-seater tank armed with a variety of mounted weapons. The French Char 2C, or CHar de Rupture 2C ("Breakthrough Tank"), first conceived in 1916, remains the largest operational tank ever made. Alarmed, Estienne now wrote a letter to the Commander-in-Chief, General Joffre, dated 27 November 1916 and defending the light tank concept. It had a crew of 12. The Only Operational Super Heavy Tank Of World War Two. This work had not, however, stopped them from considering other tank types. With the tail fitted, the hull was over twelve metres long. Crew: 12: Armour: 45 mm max. When the German Panzerdivisionen, in the execution of Operation Fall Rot, breached the French lines after 10 June 1940, the decision was made to prevent the capture of the famous equipment. [4] That his fears were not unfounded became apparent when in November Mourret tried to obstruct further development of the Renault FT, arguing that all available resources should be concentrated into heavy tank production. FCM director Moritz was assured by Renault in January 1917 that the desired 200 HP engines were reliable and would pose no danger to the project. Char 2C; Crew; Crew: 12 : Physical Characteristics; Weight: 69 t: Length: 10.27 m: Width: 3 m: Height: 4.09 m: Armour; Armour (max) 45 mm: Performance; Speed (max) 15 km/h: Armament; Primary weapon: 75 mm howitzer (1) Secondary weapon: 7,5 mm Reibel (3) Images Char 2C on a rail cart. French politicians, not having been greatly involved in them and leaving the matter to the military, were no less inquisitive. One prototype was completed. It weighed 76 tons. Further Reading. In January 1917, the Ministry of Armament proposed to build three weight classes of tanks: light, medium and heavy tanks,[3] the latter class corresponding to the new project. Renault was unconvinced that a sufficient power-to-weight ratio could ever be achieved with the engines available at the time to give acceptable mobility to the heavy tank types requested by the military.Charles-Edmond Serre, a close associate of Louis Renaul… All of this tanks were destroyed in 1940, when they were being transported to the front by train. In addition to the two turrets, there were also three internal machine guns with hull mounts, one on either side of the tank’s hull, and one next to the driver. According to French tradition, each tank had a proper name, matching one of the provinces: Province, … This led to an emergency alliance between Estienne and Mourret to bring about a reversal of this decision. Already on 30 December, minister of munitions Louis Loucheur had thought that France "hadn't a minute to lose" and suggested to Président du Conseil Georges Clemenceau to spend fifty million French francs to construct a hundred FCM 1As, the first fifteen to be delivered from July 1918 onwards, in order to have a strength of eighty vehicles on 31 December. [2], The vehicle was the largest tank built until that date. Paul Malmassari, 2013, "Les Maxi-Chars au-delà du Char Lourd, 1re partie – 1916-1927: Du char de rupture au char de forteresse". Charges were placed and the fuel pipes cut. Char 2C is a Codex Entry featured in Battlefield 1, introduced in the They Shall Not Pass expansion. Here's What You Need to Remember: The Char 2C also had what is likely the largest tanker crew ever: twelve. It had a very heavy gun for the time, and thick armor—but suffered from extremely low power output, which significantly hindered the tank’s cross-country ability. A speed of 6 km/h was attained. This version of Char 2C bis was idealized and renderized, but never was used in this game. Three were placed in gimbal mounts at the front and sides and one in a rear turret. Estienne had already set this course by choosing the heaviest version, the "C", for production, requiring a completely new prototype, causing a considerable delay. The machineguns had an ammunition load of 9504 rounds. On 24 June the ministry of armament complained about the situation. Meanwhile, Renault had consulted his own team, led by Rodolphe Ernst-Metzmaier, which since May 1916 had been in the process of designing the revolutionary Renault FT light tank. 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